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Peter & Mary Tannen

     Peter Tannen gives us a personal look at his treatment process. He takes us through every step of his cancer treatment, from how he weighs his options and makes a final decision to the actual procedure and how he's doing since his treatment at Southwest Oncology Centers.

 

I know you have all wondered when I am going to make my decision on treatment for my prostate cancer. The exact answer is difficult to say, but it will certainly be within the next month. Why so long, you may ask. First the good news. Because I was diagnosed so early, all options are open. I am an excellent "cure'' candidate for all the treatment therapies. On this, all three urologists and the oncologist I have seen were unanimous. What are these therapies? Here are the primary treatments in no particular order, with a short description. These are very rudimentary descriptions.

Watchful Waiting
No specific treatment, but the emphasis is on "watchful.'' Frequent PSA tests to check on the progress of the cancer. Prostrate cancer generally grows slowly. Many men never have symptoms and die from other causes. Most appropriate for older men (short life expectancy).

Radical Prostatectomy
Surgical removal of the prostate gland. Also a check on whether there is any spread of the cancer. Latest techniques use "nerve sparing procedure," which minimizes urinary and sexual problems. This is the "Gold Standard'' treatment to which all others must be compared. For men in my category, the statistical cure rate is very high. I am a prime candidate for this surgery. It is major surgery, with several days in the hospital and a month or two recovery time.

Hormone Therapy
It has been known for nearly a century that male hormones stimulate the growth of prostate cancer. Hormone therapy stops and/or blocks the hormones. It is effective in shrinking tumors and slowing the growth of prostate cancer. Because hormone therapy is systemic, it also works on cancer cells that have spread from the prostate. However, it usually doesn't kill the cancer, only slows its growth. New (experimental) Total Androgen Blockade therapy appears to be successful and may be a "cure,'' but there has yet to be a clinical trial.

External Beam Radiation
This therapy uses high-powered X-rays to kill the cancer cells. Treatments take 1-2 minutes, five times a week for 7-8 weeks. Modern X-ray treatments use computer-controlled beams and considerable preplanning. This permits high dosages in the prostate, with minimal dosage to other organs. Success rate is claimed to be nearly as high as prostatectomy, but criteria used are somewhat relaxed.

Radioactive Seed Implant
About 100 tiny radioactive seeds are permanently implanted in a preplanned pattern in the prostate It is done as an out-patient procedure. The seeds generally used (I-125) have a half-life of 60 days, which means that the radiation is down to about 1 % after a year. The total dose that can be given is much higher than with the external beam therapy. Because the radiation is very short range (a few mm), damage to other organs is rare. Some oncologists use high-dose-rate, temporary seed implants, but the permanent seeds are the standard treatment. Success rate is high, especially for men in my risk group.

There are other experimental treatments that I won't discuss, because I am not considering them. Also, there are several combined treatments that are too complex to go into here.

I have rejected several options:

Watchful Waiting: I'm too young. Given my parents' life-spans, I can expect to live another 20 years+. The big risk here is that I might wait too long and the cancer starts to grow aggressively. That would preclude use of the most promising "curative'' therapies.

External-Beam Radiation: The physics is the killer. No matter how smart we are with the preplanning, the radiation must pass through other organs to get to the prostate. This means some radiation damage will occur. Also, the "cure" rate improves as the dose increases. The maximum dose in the prostate is set by how much the oncologist is willing to damage the intermediate organs. Not for me.

This leaves the prostatectomy, seeds, and hormones. I prefer to not do the hormone therapy at this time. It is an excellent backup if the other two "fail" after ten years. But taken too early could leave me with cells that are hormone-immune and no backup. I am currently leaning towards the seed therapy, because of convenience, short recovery, and relatively low side effects. I have talked to a number of men with various therapies. I will continue to gather data. I have an appointment with the VA urologist on Sept. 24th. The VA is also sending my biopsy out for a second opinion.

Mary has been by my side throughout all this and has been a real "rock.'' She has heard all the medical opinions and has taken great notes as I have asked questions. She is holding up well, although I can't imagine how.


Decision Update #2 - October 2003

A quick review of where I am. First, my diagnosis indicates that I have a very low stage tumor, with a very small probability (<1%) that it has escaped from the prostate gland. Early detection is the real hero here. The primary therapies in use today are: Watchful Waiting, Radical Prostatectomy, External Beam Radiation, Radioactive Seed Implant and Hormone. shave already rejected Watchful Waiting and External Beam Radiation therapies. Hormone therapy I have set aside for the time being as a salvage therapy for future use, if needed. That leaves Radical Prostatectomy and Radioactive Seed Implants as the remaining potential therapies. The urologists and oncologists I have seen consider me to be a prime candidate for either. Here are the basic "Pros'' and "Cons" of the two therapies:

Pros

1. For a low stage tumor, there is a high probability (>90%) that all the cancer has been removed and there will be no recurrence. Expected survival rate is essentially equal to not having had prostate cancer.

2 Modern "nerve-sparing'' surgery techniques reduce the chance of incontinence and impotence.

3. Immediate inspection of the lymph nodes to make certain that the disease was confined.

4 Post-operation resection of gland determines exact nature of the tumor.

5. PSA immediately drops to zero, if successful.

6. Good data, extended back at least 20 years.

7. This is the "Gold Standard'' treatment.

Cons

1. It's major surgery. Will have to provide a (self) blood donation. Several days of hospitalization are required. Recovery time is typically two months.

2. A section of the urethra is removed, along with one of the major urinary valves. A catheter is required for two-three weeks until the urethra heals.

3. Incontinence occurs in a fairly high percentage of patients. Some permanent incontinence persists in many cases, especially older men. At least one-third of men require pads or diapers permanently.

4. Even with the best surgical techniques, some nerve damage occurs. Nerve healing is highly age dependent. Impotence rate is high, especially among older men with hypertension.

Pros

1. Disease "cure'' rate appears to match Prostatectomy. Database now extends to twelve years. For men with my stage of cancer, the disease-free rate at ten years is in the 90-95% range.

2. Outpatient surgery. One-to-two days recovery (30 days for weightlifting). Catheter overnight, at worst.

3. Incontinence is rare.

4. Impotence rate significantly lower than prostatectomy.

Cons

1. Never certain that radiation killed all the tumor cells.

2. PSA may take 5 years to reach its minimum value (indicative of a "cure'').

3. No resection of the tumor or lymph nodes.

4. Major (albeit temporary) urinary problems are common.

5. A small, but non-negligible potential for rectal problems (usually temporary).

6. Impotence rates rise five years after the procedure to levels somewhat less than surgery.


My Decision

Basically, the tradeoff is between 1) a near-certain "cure'' with a large potential for severe side effects and 2) an almost as good "cure'' with a lower potential for side effects. We have friends who have had surgery, with essentially no long-lasting side effects. But they were all much younger than me (5-10 years) when the surgery was performed. We have also heard of cases of botched surgery. I have also talked to a number of men who have had the seed therapy. Some had more problems than others. Those that had a "failure'' of the treatment started out with a considerably higher stage tumor then mine. Those that "failed'' are now being successfully treated with hormones. All had some urinary problems, lasting from a few weeks to several months. But no incontinence. Impotence rates were what you would expect from the age group.

One oncologist here, in Albuquerque, suggested that I sign up for an ongoing study comparing the two techniques. Basically, the choice would be made by a flip of a coin. I had rather make the choice myself.

I have decided to go with the seed therapy. As you know, I have been leaning this way for some tame. The most recent studies that extended the data set out to 12 years really put me over the top If I were five years younger, 30 pounds lighter, or not hypertensive I might have gone the other way. The VA urologist agreed with my choice as a rational one.

The next question is "Where?'' The local people seem quite competent. But they are stall on the learning curve, with only about five years of experience and about 500 procedures under their belt. An acquaintance of ours had his done locally five years ago and is doing well. The VA would set me up with their Centers in San Francisco or Seattle. They have done thousands of the procedures.

An oncologist in Scottsdale, AZ, Dr. Gordon Grado, was strongly recommended by a number of men in the local support group. He has done several thousand procedures going back about 15 years. It was his recent study, extending out to 12 years that was the clincher. Consequently I have set up an appointment to do the therapy the second week in November. Normally this is a 3-day procedure: Day One is the initial meeting, discussion and pre-op, Day Two the planning, remaining pre-op and the manufacture of the template, Day Three the actual procedure. Either general or spinal anesthesia is used. The actual procedure takes 1-2 hours and is done as an outpatient procedure. A catheter is used for an hour or two after the procedure, but may be required overnight. They generally want you stay around the area overnight, "just in case." This is usually done on a Tuesday-Thursday cycle. Because of Dr. Grado's appointment schedule and the need to order the seeds in advance, they asked me to come in on Monday, Nov 10th. We will probably stay with Ann and Pete, except for Thursday night I will give you details later. The cost of the procedure will be covered totally by my Military "TriCare For Life'' insurance. It's a better deal than the VA.


Seed Therapy - November 2003

Now that we are back and I have had some time to reflect it is probably a good time to give everyone an update on the radiation seed therapy and my initial response to it. First, a quick review. After my initial diagnosis, I had seen several urologists and an oncologist for outside opinions. Also, the VA had sent my biopsy out to Johns Hopkins for a second opinion. There was strong agreement among all the doctors that I had an early stage cancer and was a prime candidate for elder surgery or seed therapy. As you know, I did extensive research and had settled on the seed therapy as most appropriate for my situation. I had also decided to go to Scottsdale, AZ and have the procedure done by Dr. Gordon Grado He was highly recommended by a number of men in the local support group and had authored several papers on the procedure (which I had read). His experience stretched back over 15 years and he had performed thousands of these procedures. The appointments were set up with Dr. Grado for the week of November 10-15.

Mary and I left Albuquerque on Sunday, Nov 9th and drove to Tucson. We enjoyed the afternoon and evening with our daughter, Ann, and her family. We left some of our stuff in Tucson and drove up to Scottsdale on Monday morning. It's about a two hour drive. We checked into our hotel, ate lunch, then went to the first appointment. Dr. Grado has a warm, friendly personality. He is also very confident of his abilities. We hit it off well and Mary was impressed. He was a bit cocky, but maybe that's just an MD thing.

He did a rectal exam and gave me some bad news. First, he could feel the tumor, which none of the Albuquerque doctors (except maybe my primary) had. This was not goodness, as it screamed my grade from Tlc to T2b, although I remained within the overall Stage 2 (almost no one is diagnosed Stage 1). Additionally, he said that my gland was about 80 cc, versus the 30 cc at the time of biopsy and the estimated 40 cc by the oncologist. Once again, not good news. So either the Albuquerque doctors had mode some bad errors or I had gotten worse in the past three months. Either way, it wasn't the greatest news. Dr. Grado asked me what my profession had been before I retired. I told him. He stated that what he did wasn't "Rocket Science."

Grado then did an ultra-sound measurement of the prostate. I was able to watch this procedure on a bed-side monitor. He pointed out to me the size of the gland (which he measured two different ways). It was 83-84cc. The ultra-sound was clear enough to see the primary tumor and another, smaller tumor, on the other side. That one was missed by the biopsy. More bad news, but nothing to change course. I already knew, from my research, that this was a distinct possibility. The most worrisome problem was the size of my prostate. Many doctors won't do the seed procedure if the gland is larger than 60 cc. I already knew that Grado had perfected the technique in even larger glands (over 100 cc), but there was a possibility that he wouldn't do it He then had a CT scan done to determine the position of the gland and if there was any interference from the pubic bone. Grado was confident that I was well within the parameters of his experience. He felt that, because of the size of my prostate, he would used the 103Pd seeds, rather than the 125I. The Pd radiation will die away in about 3-4 months, while I persists for nearly a year. Because the dose rate for Pd is three times higher than I, the total dose required is about 20% lower than that for Iodine. This was moderately positive, as the side effects correlate with the total dose. Grado estimated that I would require about 200 seeds. His tech was doing the actual calculation.

For several years, Dr. Grado has been giving a light dose (~ 4%) of external beam radiation poor to the seed procedure. He says that this is for prophylactic reasons to prevent any cancer cells from escaped during the seed implantation. Several of his other Albuquerque patients also had experienced this His explanation went beyond what I had researched. It was to be given in two doses, with the first being done that day. Prior to the CT scan, I had been marked up for positioning. After a few additional marks and a couple of X-ray photos, I was given the radiation dose. This procedure took about 30 minutes, with the radiation consuming only about 5 min. I opted to do the second dose on Wednesday, since Ann's kids had Tuesday (Veterans' Day) off.

Wednesday was also my "purge day," so I couldn't eat anything solid after 2 PM and nothing after midnight. We showed up for my radiation treatment at 3. It was all done in 15 min. Then we retired to the hotel to await Ann. She had graciously offered to come up Wednesday and stay through Friday to help Mary drive back to Tucson. She arrived in the afternoon via the shuttle bus. I sat around the room, consuming Gatorade and water. Mary and Ann went out to pick up jell-O and bouillon and do some "retail therapy." They also picked up my prescription for a five day course of antibiotics and pain medication. Then they went to dinner. We talked when they came back and I finished my pre-op duties.

On Thursday, we got to the hospital at the prescribed hour. Lots of paperwork-what a surprise! Lots of hurry up and wait. Just like the military. I turned over the contents of my pocket to Mary. Ann commented that since I couldn't carry anything heavy after the procedure, SHE would hold my wallet. That got a big reaction out of the nurses. In pre-op, more paperwork. The nurse had a hard time starting the IV in my hand. Finally dropped back to the arm. They also ran an EKG, which must have been fine, since there wasn't any frantic scurrying around afterwards. Mary and Ann came in to hold my hand. The anesthesiologist was very good. He had actually looked over my medical records and asked pertinent questions. He started the drip with a relaxant, then the nurse discovered that they had lost a page out of my paperwork. Don't panic, it's only the permission paper to do the surgery! Well, they whipped out another one and Mary signed, since I was already light-headed. Time to wheel me into the operating room. The last thing I remember was scooting off the Gurney onto the operating table. Then lights out.

I woke up in recovery and after some initial fussing by the nurse, Dr. Grado appeared. He repeated the Ann/Wallet joke and I roared. The other patients in recovery gave me a sour look. After a short tame, Mary came in. I was woozy, but feeling fine. About an hour in recovery and I got dressed and was wheeled out to the entrance, while Ann brought the car up. It was about 6 PM. We went to the Denny's next door to the hotel and had dinner. Other than a moderately-sore butt I felt okay.

I had some problems emptying my bladder and was up most of the night. We checked out the next morning, after breakfast. Mary & Ann did all the packing and hauling. Then we drove over to Dr. Grado's office. He had to do a quick CAT scan to verify the positioning of the seeds and do the post-procedure dosimetry. The technician noted that I indeed had a VERY full bladder and would be getting prescription for that problem. We saw Grado for a few minutes and he stated that the procedure had gone very well, with no problems He was also impressed by the lack of bruising on my body. He had told us that my abdomen would be "black and blue" for a week, or more afterwards. I had a little bruising, but it was already fading. Grado also retold the Ann/wallet story and said that he had never heard such a hearty laugh in the recovery room. He said that only major restriction was no heavy lifting for a month. I could walk, play golf and generally resume normal activities. That's great news, since I couldn't play golf before the procedure. I have to cut back on caffeine and alcohol. Mary defined "heavy" as a cup of coffee (decaf). I got my prescription for "Flomax,'' along with two weeks free samples. Also an appointment to return for follow-up in three months, on my birthday, Feb. 17th.

Well, what does It look like from here on out. I'm doing okay, with minimal side effects, so far. The Flomax works fine, although I do get up 3-4 times a night. Thanks to the 17 day half-life of the Pd, by the end of November I will have received half of the total dose. By mid-December, three-fourths, and by the time I go back to Scottsdale in February, 97 %. So I expect any side effects to peak by then, although some may persist for a year or more. The key will be my first PSA reading in February. I will actually have this before we go back to see Dr. Grado. I have a follow-up appointment at the VA in late-January. After that, it's a day-at-a-time The change in the staging of my cancer lowers the treatment success probability. Not catastrophic, but from the 90% range to the 80% range. Of course, we will not truly know for ten years (I hope).

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